An Interview with Bryan Fuller

Queer For Fear: Werewolf -- Photo:  Shudder
Queer For Worry: Werewolf — Picture: Shudder

Ask Bryan Fuller to call his favourite horror film and the reply comes with out hesitation.

Alien,” he replies.

After which comes the deep-end dive.

“Break it down and take a look at it as a household unit,” he continues. “This can be a household unit the place a mom — actually referred to as Mom — is sacrificing her youngsters to the presence of an alien penis-headed monster. My mom was nice, and tried very onerous to navigate my very own father’s abuse — it was actually primarily my dad who was the issue — however what I noticed in Alien was a household unit that was betrayed by unhealthy parenting, and it was solely the robust girl amongst them that was in a position to survive, as a result of she caught to her personal ethical and moral frequencies, and that’s how she navigated the circumstances, by staying true to herself.”

Welcome to the gorgeous, hyper-analytical thoughts of Bryan Fuller, a tv showrunner who has been demonstrably forward of his time with every collection he’s crafted — from the gothic and gory Hannibal to the mythic and shattering American Gods to the winsome and wondrous Pushing Daisies. He’s been acknowledged as a rarity on the planet of tv, as a forward-thinking genius. After spending a number of hours in his firm, it’s onerous to disagree.

With a resume that features a lengthy, early stint on each Star Trek: Deep House 9 and Star Trek: Voyager (and ended on a bitter word with him departing his creation, Star Trek: Discovery, earlier than it launched, a phase of his profession he’d choose to not delve into aside from to say “I’ve not watched it since I left”), the 53-year-old has achieved a super-status amongst his devotees, who’ve dubbed the entire of his creations “The Fullervese,” of which he notes, “I’m charmed and endeared by it.”

Whereas Hannibal is his most evident entry into the realm of horror, Fuller, who identifies as queer, has at all times been an aficionado of the style. It’s why the cable horror community Shudder introduced him aboard to re-tool the 90-minute documentary Queer for Worry. Fuller noticed potential within the movie, tore it up by the floorboards, and refashioned it as a four-part collection that magnificently explores the connection between the horror style and the LGBTQ neighborhood.

Entertaining, informative, and enlightening, typically in shocking methods, Queer for Worry is indispensable viewing for anybody who loves horror — and everybody who’s LGBTQ, horror followers or not. It options elucidation from a cavalcade of LGBTQ stars, pundits, celebrities, and horror specialists, together with Lea Delaria, Kimberly Peirce, Liv Hewson, Justin Simien, Don Mancini, Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, Heather Matarazzo, BenDeLaCreme, and even Sid “Pufnstuf” Krofft, all providing their viewpoints on the style.

A dialog with Fuller reveals a charismatic and animated man prepared to go the gap. A easy query typically elicits a deep, revealing reply, one which skirts the perimeters of academia however is delivered with innate, considerable appeal. Speaking with Fuller is much less like an training than an illumination of one thing you already knew was there however simply wanted somebody to level the best way.

His private horror hallmark is Hannibal, which starred Mads Mikkelsen because the cannibalistic, murderous physician and Hugh Dancy as his nemesis, Will Graham. The queer undertones of the three-season collection — lavishly strewn with blood and entrails and that includes a powerful, hypnotic narrative — have been onerous to overlook. It’s a work that Fuller stays extraordinarily pleased with.

“I feel among the finest issues to return out of Hannibal was this ‘Fannibal’ neighborhood that was distinctively queer and noticed the entire queer thematics of the work and appreciated the visible type of the storytelling, and in addition discovered themselves in a approach that they associated to those advanced, unusual relationships that felt romantic, however maybe weren’t sexualized, however felt extremely intimate,” he says with out a lot as taking a breath.

“Regardless of that, there was one thing concerning the queerness of the Fannibal neighborhood that resonated and leached all of those themes out of Hannibal when it comes to the way to be your self or how to not be your self that I discover actually inspiring.

“Each time I take a look at Twitter and see the Fannibal conversations which have grown previous the present into the person’s lives that signify the Fannibal neighborhood, I feel that’s certainly one of my best accomplishments,” he continues. “As a result of if I can do a present that makes anyone really feel much less lonely or much less remoted, or give them a pathway to search out neighborhood, then that’s magical.”

METRO WEEKLY: More often than not, these round-up exhibits are merely speedy lists with brief clips and pithy remarks from speaking heads. However Queer for Worry is totally different. Sure, it has the clips and the heads, however it’s really a deep dive into the connection between horror movies and the LGBTQ expertise. I discovered it enthralling, fascinating, and extremely informative.

BRYAN FULLER: It got here out of Horror Noire: A Historical past of Black Horror, our progenitor, and a beautiful documentary collection [on Shudder]. It was so informational, and had superb speaking heads that have been discussing the movies from a theoretical viewpoint, a metaphorical viewpoint, and a literal viewpoint, in addition to the social impression that these movies and the filmmakers had. In order that was actually our bar — what Horror Noire did for Black audiences, have Queer for Worry do for queer audiences.

They’d already shot a movie a la Horror Noire that existed [before I came aboard]. However there was a lot materials to cowl {that a} movie merely didn’t have the actual property to get to the entire particulars. We’re a four-hour collection, and that was a 90-minute film. So the dialogue grew to become how can we increase this right into a template that permits you to go extra in-depth? As a result of within the unique film there was no Oz Perkins, there was no emotional dialogue past the viewers feeling empowered by these tales.

First, it grew to become a six-hour collection, after which [Shudder] requested us to squeeze it into 4. And we couldn’t. We couldn’t get all of it in there. The dialog then turned to, how about if we simply sluggish every thing down and inform the story? As a result of it was [at first] very a lot a kind of checklist documentaries, that are tremendous enjoyable if you realize the films, however in the event you don’t know the films and also you don’t know the thematics, you actually do have to cease and inform the viewers a narrative about why these items are vital and what the historic context is of every of those movies.

Once we began doing that, the little mini-section that was maybe three minutes of Hitchcock grew to become half-hour of Hitchcock. It actually was nearly letting issues breathe and letting them develop into emotional and private, in a approach that a way more condensed model of the present merely couldn’t do. It was actually about desirous to dig in.

MW: You take a look at well-known movies, however obscure ones as effectively. The viewer comes away with a sense of both “I’ve to revisit that film” or “I’ve by no means seen that and now I have to.” For instance, I’ve by no means seen I Married a Monster from Outer House.

FULLER: It’s a hoot. It’s so campy.

MW: Properly, I now want to see that film. I like the best way the present is structured into each biographical and thematic segments. The second episode, for instance, is all concerning the homosexual director James Whale, who made Frankenstein and The Invisible Man, in addition to Hitchcock. It takes the time to investigate their careers when it comes to LGBTQ content material in a approach that was each illuminating and entertaining.

FULLER: One of the best supply mechanism for data is leisure. We wished to be entertaining at first, however we additionally wished to maneuver the viewers and let the viewers learn about these heroes.

I feel there are heroes on this style, and people heroes are the pioneers who dare to inform these tales when maybe it wasn’t as secure, or that may have drawn hypothesis about their identities and their proclivities in a time when it wasn’t secure to be queer. So the notion of the primary two episodes was actually biopics in a approach. We wished to present a biographical basis for the queer individuals in these tales that basically caught their necks out to be artistic. Whether or not that’s Mary Shelly and her orgies or Anthony Perkins’ efficiency in Psycho. There are acts of bravery with the storytelling that I feel should be recognized and celebrated in a approach which might be relatable, as a result of I feel queer persons are conducting themselves bravely day by day by talking up about their identities, in no matter type that takes.

MW: The present doesn’t explicitly cross judgment on any of the movies. I bear in mind actually hating Psycho II and Psycho III after they got here out. However now I need to revisit them, due to what Perkins’ son Oz stated about his father’s have to make them. Your collection places each sequels in a brand new queer mild. On the time of their launch, we have been simply considering, “Oh, they’re cashing in.” However no, there’s one other layer to Perkins returning to the position of Norman Bates.

FULLER: Properly, I’ve genuine affection for Psycho II. I noticed it once I was 12, and it opened my eyes, in a approach. I immediately recognized with Anthony Perkins. I used to be conscious of his queerness and his awkwardness, however I couldn’t put phrases to them. However I did really feel like that is anyone that may be very straightforward to establish with.

Queer For Worry: Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa — Picture: Shudder

MW: Whale is an efficient instance of a director who discovered methods to include and have a good time his being homosexual within the movies he made, typically not so subversively. Hitchcock, then again, accommodates a variety of the “gay as villain” motif, and sometimes a misogynistic one. You can argue there’s an undercurrent of homophobia operating by Hitchcock’s work.

FULLER: Properly, there’s — and there additionally isn’t. Since you get characters like Caldicott and Charters in The Girl Vanishes. They only occur to be individuals on this story who learn actually queer and develop into heroes. You even have Isobel in Suspicion, the homicide thriller author who’s clearly a queer girl together with her younger, kind of dumb, masculine-presenting lover. And Isobel’s an older femme, which is a pleasant dynamic in and of itself. There’s one thing about these depictions that I stroll away with considering that he isn’t universally homophobic or buying and selling in homophobia.

There’s a quote we function initially of that episode the place Hitchcock says, “If I hadn’t met Alma on the proper time, I might’ve turned out to be a poof.” There’s one thing to it while you begin wanting on the misogyny by that lens. Hitchcock famously had his personal mom points and mom dynamics — and all of his killers are mother-obsessed. And the manifestation of misogyny inside queer communities is rampant and horrifying and ugly. Whether or not it’s one thing like bottom-shaming or drag-shaming, any depiction of femininity inside queer male cultures is usually revealing a variety of internalized misogyny.

Homophobia is a type of misogyny. You’re villainizing or depicting as socially unacceptable any type of masculine depiction of female qualities, nonetheless they manifest. That’s modified a bit of bit with the popularization of drag tradition. However we nonetheless see a variety of internalized homophobia and misogyny in homosexual males notably, and I discover that basically disturbing. It’s like, “Have you ever guys forgotten?” Why are we cannibalizing ourselves and utilizing a cycle of abuse in our vocabulary to place down others the best way that we’ve got been put down? If we’re not savvy sufficient and self-aware sufficient to interrupt that cycle, then we do deserve scrutiny and a better take a look at our personal misogyny.

So I take a look at Hitchcock’s misogyny and homophobia in a barely internalized approach. Perhaps that’s letting him off the hook a bit of bit — he did some actually fucked-up shit and behaved abhorrently. Why is the extra attention-grabbing query.

MW: You can argue he was a sufferer of getting to navigate Hollywood’s stringent ethical codes in his later movies.

FULLER: Yeah, he needed to navigate the code. And together with his earlier movies, he didn’t. As I stated, I really like Caldicott and Charters. I feel they’re a very horny couple. I might subscribe to their Solely Followers web page if that they had one. I discover them extremely charming and actually, actually horny. I discover them to be the sexiest pairing in any Hitchcock film. It’s possible you’ll say it’s Grace Kelly and Gary Grant, however I feel it’s Caldicott and Charters.

MW: Let’s discuss concerning the physique transformation episode. I’d by no means considered werewolf transformation as a queer-coded factor. To me, it was at all times about individuals turning into beasts and killing different individuals. But, what your collection delves into is how, in additional fashionable werewolf movies, it turns into much less about hiding who you’re and feeling cursed, and extra about celebrating your self and discovering your neighborhood. It was a shocking eye-opener for me.

FULLER: That is the place we get into queer idea. And the very first thing that we must always say is that if a queer particular person sees themselves in a murals someway, it’s legitimate. That’s type of the primary bar to cross. There’s one thing about werewolves — the fundamental component of, “There’s something uncontrollable inside me, one thing libidinal and primal that comes out when circumstances are aligned to manifest.”

I feel that’s one thing that we must always be capable of settle for: in the event you see your self as a queer particular person within the werewolf mythology, then that’s the place it turns into legitimate. A number of queer individuals have been figuring out with these monsters as a result of there’s one thing about us that we hold hidden. We will transfer by society more often than not with out being detected, however at factors in our lives it comes out and is actualized in a approach that it will possibly’t be hidden. And that’s one thing that may be very straightforward to attract a sexual parallel to.

On the subject of episode three and the thematics that we’re uncovering there, it’s all about educating the viewers, who might not be queer or could not initially see themselves in these narratives, how queer individuals see themselves in these narratives. It’s not saying, “The werewolf is totally a queer metaphor that’s supposed by the authorship of lycanthropy to be a queer thematic.” What we’re saying is that since you’re speaking concerning the duality of presenting social selves and hidden libidinal selves, it’s an entry level for queer individuals to really feel a connection to those tales.

MW: I hate to make use of the stuffy time period academic — illuminating might be a greater phrase. I’ve to say, the quantity of clips you might have is astounding. How tough was it to get rights to all of them? I can’t even start to think about.

FULLER: Properly, that is the place the significance of the phrase that you simply have been hesitant to make use of comes into play, which is academic. Whether it is academic and we’re discussing it for academic functions, it falls into truthful use. So we didn’t should pay for many of those clips as a result of we have been utilizing them in an academic context.

Queer For Worry — Picture: Shudder

MW: So we are able to use the time period academic.

FULLER: Please use the time period academic. It’s not a unclean phrase for me.

MW: The clips from movies warning concerning the risks of homosexuality from the fifties and sixties have been troubling.

FULLER: There’s Boys Beware — that’s the one which we used the place it’s like, “Ralphie didn’t know that he was a gay.” And a variety of these clips have been pulled from The Homosexuals, a CBS particular from, I feel, 1960, that stated “America, shock. There are homosexuals and so they’re very harmful. And that is how we’re dealing with them.” Full with conversion therapies.

MW: Hosted by Mike Wallace no much less.

FULLER: It’s fascinating. Whenever you take a look at that kind of cultural context of queer oppression or queer marginalization, the proof is type of within the pudding. As a result of anyone who says, “Cease complaining about your standing, socially, queer individuals,” while you look again at one thing like The Homosexuals, it’s onerous to disclaim that these items don’t exist. They might not be as socially acceptable or prevalent as they have been prior to now. However it’s a DNA marker of that bigotry.

MW: And but, these clips made me suppose, “Properly, right here we’re once more.” Clearly, we’ve made monumental strides prior to now twenty years, however we’re prone to shedding every thing once more on account of a really loud, very vocal, conservative minority.

FULLER: Properly, I imply, the Republican Celebration has misplaced itself to extremism. And if they’re effective with Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert being the face of their social gathering, I feel the remainder of society must do every thing they’ll to destroy them.

MW: They’re the monster.

FULLER: They’re the monster.

MW: One other attention-grabbing theme that runs by the collection is the concept of indoctrination. The vampire phase in episode 4 goes into this. It’s a time period that’s sprung up prior to now 12 months: Homosexual persons are indoctrinating youngsters into being homosexuals. We’re changing them. We’re evil. What’s attention-grabbing right here is how horror movies create a mirrored image of our personal societal turmoils.

FULLER: Whenever you stated indoctrination, my mind went by a number of totally different experiences. That worry of indoctrination is why individuals burn books. The indoctrination fears are very cannily obfuscating the nascent actuality of any particular person’s queerness and suggesting it’s fully an exterior affect. And subsequently they’ll “hate the sin however not the sinner” in some bizarre kind of fascist approach.

I feel to be able to be indoctrinated to one thing, you must have a nascent curiosity in it someway. And that’s at all times what will get obfuscated — that persons are harmless and they’re corrupted. However as a younger queer particular person, I used to be continuously on the lookout for older queer males to show me one thing about myself, not essentially sexually, however to show me the way to be comfy in my pores and skin with who I’m.

I bear in mind once I was working at a movie show. I used to be 16 years previous, and there was the identified gay on this small Idaho city. He was affectionately referred to as “The Fag.” And he would kind of stroll round Major Avenue, up and down. And he would stroll by the movie show and cease by and discuss to me. He clearly acknowledged that I used to be a younger queer particular person and he would say issues like, “Whenever you grow old and you permit this place, you’re going to be a lot extra comfy in who you’re and also you’re going to search out components of your self and it’s going to be a celebration.”

Some would argue that that was an tried indoctrination. However actually, what he was attempting to do is inform a younger queer child who was in a small Idaho city that it’s going to be okay.

Sure, there’s actual indoctrination and sure, there are unhealthy individuals who take benefit, however the one that was deemed “The Fag” the place I grew up wasn’t attempting to indoctrinate me, as a result of I used to be already there. He might see whether or not it was by my flamboyance or my enthusiasm that I used to be a nascent queer child, and he was simply attempting to construct a bridge to self-acceptance in a approach, versus seducing me and sodomizing me.

Queer For Worry: Justin Simien — Picture: Shudder

MW: It was an affirmation.

FULLER: Sure, sure!

MW: I need to come again to the clips. I might be angsting over the choice of what to decide on and the place to put it. I in all probability would have a meltdown. Are you able to clarify the way you assemble a present like this?

FULLER: It actually may be very methodical. As we have been attempting to wrestle this to the bottom and I noticed some preliminary cuts, I used to be like, “Okay, we’re organizing data in a approach that’s not as streamlined accurately. We’ve obtained this massive soup of data.” And so I simply began doing what I understand how to do, which is writing scripts.

Now we have the interviews organized by material and I might simply undergo and skim the entire interviews and begin pulling clips and placing them in script type, after which discovering the pictures to help what the interviewee was saying.

MW: Did you depend on reminiscence or did you all should rewatch each movie referenced?

FULLER: I’ve an excellent reminiscence and absorption of a variety of these things as a result of I’m a fan. I’m absorbing it as a result of I’m open to it — I’m absolutely dilated and ready to obtain. The interviews, once I was conducting them, have been only a free-flowing dialog. Anyone would say one thing about ET being their first horror expertise. And I might be like, “Okay, unpack ET as a queer horror expertise.” After which having anyone like Briana Venskus break down ET when it comes to cross-dressing and gender fuckery and a romance between a younger boy and an alien factor that had horrific circumstances round it if this alien was caught — the secretiveness of all of it changing into this queer horror story — was one thing that I by no means thought of. You simply don’t neglect these conversations.

MW: It goes again to the great thing about movie being an interpretive artwork type. Sure, you might have a floor studying, however there’s typically a lot layering beneath.

FULLER: I feel that’s why movie is so satisfying — it turns into private. That’s the place we get individuals who love unhealthy motion pictures. They’re not wanting on the film objectively — they’re wanting on the film by their coronary heart, and so they’re placing their coronary heart on it, and subsequently the film turns into an amalgam of the movie itself and the viewers member. That’s a lovely reciprocal expertise.

MW: I think about you might have sufficient for a second season.

FULLER: Now we have sufficient for 3 seasons. Now we have a lot materials. Now we have so many who we need to do. Now we have a complete trans horror historical past with Concord Colangelo, who’s a implausible journalist and podcaster and movie critic who walked us by the historical past of trans illustration in horror from origins by the entire fashionable iterations of transness in horror. That may very well be an episode in and of itself.

Now we have how AIDS affected horror within the ’80s. Now we have the queerness of Stephen King, the queerness of Clive Barker, the damaging queer males of the eighties, and non secular horror and queerness, whether or not it’s The Exorcist or Carrie and these “pray the homosexual away” motifs you see.

Queer For Worry — Picture: Shudder

MW: Are you aware if it’s renewed but?

FULLER: Not but. Not but. Shudder’s very near the vest with that stuff. It was an attention-grabbing dialog with the Shudder executives after we lastly went to them and stated, “Look, if we’re going to do these 4 episodes, let’s not fear about protecting every thing. Let’s cowl stuff systematically and canopy it effectively.” They usually’re like, “Properly, is that the entire historical past?” And I used to be like, “The historical past’s by no means going to be full. It’s by no means going to be full.”

It’s a fallacy to recommend that it is a full historical past of queer horror. That is the primary chapter and you’ve got materials to do a number of extra chapters. And it’s simply as much as Shudder and, actually, to their algorithm of did sufficient individuals tune in and did sufficient engagement occur to inspire them desirous to do one other season?

MW: So everybody studying this wants to join Shudder proper now and watch this present. You’ve had such superb exhibits on tv. A few of them have met early ends. Hannibal after three seasons, Pushing Daisies after two, Wonderfalls after one. As a creator, have you ever discovered to take it in stride when one thing will get canceled, or does that stick with you?

FULLER: Oh, it at all times stays with you. It’s at all times the tales left untold. It’s difficult as a result of in my thoughts I can think about it and I can visualize it — there’s a model of it that exists. And the frustration is that I can’t share that with as massive an viewers as I might if I have been in a position to produce it.

There’s a model of season 4 and season 5 and season six of Hannibal in my head. There’s a model of season three of Pushing Daisies in my head. There’s variations of season two of Wonderfalls in my head. There’s variations of all these items that exist. There’s one thing small however satisfying that I make a residing with my creativeness. Now we have some of the subtle digital actuality mechanisms between our ears, so it each exists and doesn’t — in order that’s type of a ghost story.

MW: Have you ever discovered being out within the business to be a hindrance in any respect?

FULLER: It’s attention-grabbing, as a result of I’m a white cisgender male, so I’ve a sure passability in sure conditions. But additionally, I’m this massive queen. I’m six foot 4, I’m demonstratively homosexual in my expressions and my enthusiasm — it’s onerous to disclaim that. And it’s been fascinating to see straight males have totally different reactions to a very massive homosexual man — and I’m a giant, massive man, I’m a giant particular person. I’ve labored with straight administrators who’ve been very intimidated by it, I’ve had conferences with straight administrators who wouldn’t look me within the eye. If I’m sporting a pink Gucci sweater with a teddy bear on it and pink and inexperienced Houndstooth slacks rolled to my ankles with go-go boots, it’s going to be very clear who I’m. And lots of people are effective with it and so they love the expression, and lots of people aren’t — lots of people are visibly uncomfortable.

MW: What does the phrase “queer” imply to you?

FULLER: Once I hear the phrase queer — or I see it — I hear a theremin in my thoughts. So there’s one thing about being queer that I discover scrumptious. I additionally visualize Vincent Worth. There’s one thing about being othered and accepting. I feel Heather Matarazzo places this so fantastically on the finish of this season on Queer for Worry when she says queerness is kindness, and queerness is acceptance, and queerness is believing that everyone has a spot that they belong, way more than, as she says, than it’s about consuming pussy.

We carry on speaking about queerness when it comes to sexuality, nevertheless it actually is a viewpoint that’s inclusive of sexuality. It includes a lot extra social placement than it does about whether or not you’re placing one thing in a gap or getting one thing moist in another side.

So queerness is much less concerning the sexuality of being queer and concerning the sociability and id and acceptance and neighborhood of being othered. The rationale I don’t actually reply to homosexual male tales is that it’s nonetheless a way of entitlement and elitism that I discover stomach-churning, notably after we’re solely going to have the ability to efficiently transfer ahead if we’re transferring ahead as a neighborhood — so meaning trans individuals, previous individuals of colour, individuals who have totally different relationships to their gender that haven’t even been categorized but. So I really like the blanket time period queerness.

MW: I’ve to finish by asking what’s the very first horror film you bear in mind watching?

FULLER: The primary horror film I bear in mind watching was in all probability Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, and whether or not that’s categorized as a horror film or not might be up for debate. However there’s snippets of flicks, whether or not it’s like The Different, which had this evil twin story — I bear in mind the pitchfork being hidden within the haystack and anyone leaping into the haystack and getting impaled.

I noticed Invasion of the Physique Snatchers within the movie show once I was 9, when it got here out in 1978. And I bear in mind considering, “I’m not imagined to be right here, that is above my age vary in seeing this.” However I used to be so swept away, and I understood implicitly the specter of anyone telling you that you would not be the factor that you’re, and the way scary that’s.

However the first profound expertise that I had the place I felt so tied to this story was The Shining. I grew up in a house with a violent father who was a horrible bigot and used epithets about any marginalized group, whether or not it’s Blacks, Asians, Latinos, queers, and he would say in a rant that these individuals have been the deplorables — and I knew I used to be amongst them.

So it was fascinating to observe The Shining and relate to the expertise of an abusive father who’s attempting to destroy a delicate youngster as a result of they’re so delicate. And that resonated with me on a really deep degree that didn’t actually develop into aware till a lot, a lot later once I was like, “Oh my God, that’s why I really like The Shining.” You’ll be able to put an image of my father subsequent to Jack Nicholson and so they seemed very related.

My dad was additionally actively silly — he was a really silly man — so it was straightforward for me to not respect the issues that have been popping out of his mouth as a result of I used to be like, “Oh, you’re silly, you’re saying these items since you’re silly,” and that’s in all probability one thing that saved me psychologically from feeling like I used to be the issue when it was very clear that he was the issue. So when Danny Torrance defeats his abusive father and leaves him to freeze to demise in The Overlook hedge maze, that to me was so aspirational and transformational as a result of I used to be like, “I simply have to immobilize him and get away from him and go on to stay my life.” And so the thematics of The Shining as a queer narrative have been actually profound for me as a baby and gave me an instance of survival — if Danny Torrance can survive his circumstance, I can survive mine.

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